As for foreward / reverse, they operate the same. Just stepping on the decel will slow the machine and if you have something in front of the blade it may stall, but power is being aplied to the tracks. The direct drive models do not come to a full and complete stop unless the transmission is in neutral or the motor stalls. Here is how they work, from an operators standpoint. Ok, i own a 550g, mine is a real early one, w/ full forestry. It's just not quite the same as what I have received from the Cat dealers I've dealt with. I certainly would not say that the Deere support that I have had (I do currently own a 544J loader) has been poor. You can always add in what I've heard (which is similar to my experience) but my opinion is also with first hand experience. Both have a bit longer U/C and I think it's better than the standard track length.Īs far as dealer support, that will always be a case by case scenario (which is why I said usually and not always or simply is), but that opinion was based on my experience in two different states (big city and small town) and two dealerships of each of the subject brands. That was about 15 years ago so maybe my memory is not serving me well.īTW the 550G, pictured in a post above, is a LT (Long Track) model. I'm specifically thinking of the 550G that I used last (belonged to someone I shared yard space with back in CA). Yes I have run Case dozers as well but I thought the G series Deeres had the accelerator pedal. My diesel costs were very high when I had him employed. Instead he kept using my big 325 excavator to push rock. I was told by another worker that when I was not around, he would never use the bulldozer to spread rock. He never could get around the fact that if he only thought of the decelerator as a 'brake' he would be fine. I tried to tell him you cannot 'brake' a bulldozer like you can an automobile- different gearing, power, etc. I did have one guy though that was freaked out that the bulldozer does not have a 'brake' like in a car. After a short time I watch them sitting back rocking on the dozer working the blade and F/R and are quite comfortable with the right foot / left foot rules. The workers that have a natural affinity to heavy equipment do well. I tell them the decelerator is the 'Brake" - and they must always be ready to 'brake' the heavy machine if they are too close to a ledge/ hole/ other heavy equipment, etc. I NEVER want them to fall into the car driving habit of using the right foot for gas pedal/ brake pedal. When I train up a new worker for the D4C II dozer, I ALWAYS make them keep their right foot at the decelerator pedal and ONLY to use their left foot to steer. Maybe the C model Cat is old enough that you could get one at a good price. I could not see getting that done with a clutch/brake steer unit. I recently did a job with a D5G and was amazed at how steep I could push up the stock pile, while turning to boot, with that little dozer. You have stated cost limitations so you are not going to consider those. I was also going to point out that Cat started offering the Hystat with the later C series. I don't recall if Deere had the XL version in the G model or if it was introduced in the H series. The G model Deere will have an accelerator pedal vs the decelerator pedal on the Cat. I'm not trying to start a war here, it's just how I see it. In most cases you will have better support than the Deere, with Cat. IMO the Cat U/C will outlast the Berco U/C on the Deere. IMO the Cat is a bit better quality than the Deere and it is reflected in the resale price (you will benefit from this as well, if you ever decide to sell). Can y'all tell me some differences in these 2 dozers.ease of operation (both foot steer)? blade controls, reliability? company support? maintenance access? anything else to consider?Īnother thing- anybody have experience using uShip to book equipment transportation? I've solicited bids for several pieces to get an idea of rates, seems to be a decent source of information. From what I can tell, the 550g and the D5c seem to have comparable specs. I know that each individual machine needs to be evaluated on its own, just a trend that I have noticed. I've been sniffing around on the web and am finding the JDs to be a little more prevalent and priced better than the Cats. Thanks for the pics, those are nice looking machines but I'm not going to be able to make the sale this month. I was bidding on a JD 750 that was too far way.thankfully I was not the high bidder! Stumpjumper- good point on the weight AND width consideration.
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